KINGDELNC860 Powerful Mini PC, Fanless Desktop Computer, i7 8th Gen. 4 Cores CPU, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB SSD+1TB HDD, 4K 4096x2304, HD Port, DP, Full Metal Case
A**.
Great fast machine. Some security and windows activation issues.
I give this Mini PC five stars for hardware and 3 stars for software and potential security.Pros:- PC makes zero noise. We put it to power a home theater streaming and it's fantastic for this purpose- PC is cool under normal load. Under full load it gets quite hot to touch, but CPU temps never went above 60'C.- Solid built, all ports accessible and lots of them.- Impressively fast CPU and HDD. Like really impressive speed.- Allows to install an extra HDD. Cables are provided, and all it takes is to unscrew the back cover.Cons:- PC came with Win 10Pro pre-activated for 'Kingdel' user with admin rights. User can't be deleted.- ZoneAlarm Firewall right upon installation started blocking outgoing packets to 180.76.5.18:8000. IP lookup shows it's a Baidu's server at "baiduspider-180-76-5-18.crawl.baidu.com" for w/e reason.- Blocking didn't stop pings showing up blocked in ZA logs, so I decided to skip the trouble weeding out any potential security issues and just returned Win10 to factory settings from MS's bootable ISO.- New installation went fine, all drivers installed on their own. But because the initial license was digital, there was no product code supplied with PC and I couldn't activate the windows upon restore completion. HDD doesn't have a restore partition. MS support was useless.Overall, this is a great little machine. If/when vendor fixes Windows/security issues I'll reconsider, but for the moment I had to return this back through Amazon.
S**R
Just Don’t....
At first it worked great. I decided to install an internal HDD, and bought a brand new WD HDD per the specs provided by kingdel. Tried installing it, and it wasn’t working. BIOS would not see it. After several wasted hours trying to figure out what was wrong, I decided to change out the SATA cable, even though the one provided in the box with the computer was brand new. Bingo - that was the problem. So, first issue - sent with a bad SATA cable, even though kingdel insisted everything had been tested. Right.... EVERY single component, including cables, of every single computer they sell is tested?? No way. So, we had a computer to use for a couple of weeks. Then one day, the computer just wouldn’t turn on, period. I made sure all cables and plugs were secure, I left it unplugged for a time and plugged back in, took it to a known working outlet, everything I could think of. So I contacted kingdel, and they told me to take out the motherboard battery to see if it was a static issue. I followed their instructions perfectly. That didn’t work. So then they said to replace the power supply. I did so, and voila - the computer had power again. So, strike 2 - power supply that the machine shipped with lasted 2 weeks. Ok, so now I had power back, and even got kingdel to reimburse me for the power supply I had to buy. I thought, ok, good service, a couple of flukes, but now I’m set, right? NO. Since the power supply went out, I cannot get windows to finish installing on either the included SSD or the HDD I bought. The BIOS sees the drives, but if I install windows to the point where it hangs up and then shift-F10 to get the command prompt and then launch the device manager, there are VERY basic components that windows does not seem to recognize or have drivers for. For instance, the Bus Controller, and there are about 6 or 7 other basic components that are part of the motherboard that windows doesn’t recognize. WHY?? Well, after having 2 of my friends who are computer engineers look into it, they surmise that when the power supply went out, it knocked out some electronics on the motherboard, such that the drives themselves are seen, but the bus controller and other components are not working properly. So, I emailed kingdel, thoroughly frustrated at having to troubleshoot their BROKEN hardware for a month, and told them that the power supply had damaged the motherboard, and that I just want a full refund so I can buy something else. They told me I had to ship it to CHINA (wtf??) at MY OWN expense, when clearly when I bought it, it was shipped from a US warehouse, because it got here in one day right before Christmas. So I now have a BRICK for a computer, that I spent over $700 on, that worked 2 weeks, and a bunch of components went out, and my friends and I have all troubleshot for many hours, and now they want me to return this thing to them at MY expense?? To CHINA?? The shipping is going to cost me $80!! That’s more than 10% of what I paid for it originally! STAY AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY!! They use cheap components and then make YOU pay for shipping when those components needs replacing.
U**Y
I was skeptical but this PC has been great, recommended!
I've been building PCs since... geez, I guess 1989. I usually buy all the components individually but I needed a Linux server that was small and didn't make any noise so decided to buy something prepackaged. I'd never heard of Kingdel before - just discovered them randomly when looking through the Amazon listings - so I was skeptical but decided to buy it anyway since the price and features were both pretty great.The PC was solidly made and as promised it has no moving parts at all. The case is quite small, but when I opened it, I discovered the case was mostly empty. It's pretty amazing how small everything's gotten. I first plugged it in to my 4K TV using HDMI and played with it under Windows for a little while and was really impressed by how smooth and fast it was. It drove the 4k display effortlessly. I logged into my Microsoft account and it verified the copy of Windows 10 Pro that came pre-installed was genuine.Then I deleted Windows and installed Ubuntu, which went easily. The Kingdel PC has been very fast under Linux, with 4 cores and 8 threads (i.e. 8 virtual cores). And what's also impressive is that it stays cool. I was replacing an older machine that was similarly in a microcase with no moving parts, but I always had to keep the top of the case off because it would overheat. The new Kingdel has stayed quite cool; according to the lmsensors Ubuntu package, the CPU core temp doesn't go over 35c even when I have all the cores busy compiling software.I don't usually leave reviews, but decided to review this Kingdel because I was so nervous buying it since it didn't have any reviews and it seemed too good to be true - 8th gen CPU, 16GB RAM, 256GB flash and a genuine licensed copy of Win 10 Pro all for $650??! But it seems to be the real deal, so I hope the next person agonizing over "Should I buy this?" might find this review useful.
P**N
Good value for money
Delivery was within the time stated, it was well packed and arrived in good condition.Pros and Cons.Pros Silent operation, which is also a con, very fast.Cons The power LED is virtually impossible to see as either the mounting board or the front panel whole is way off, so that the led is effectively doing nothing. There is also a second LED on the same board which I assume is meant to be a drive activity indicator, but as I have said, there is only one hole on the front panel which is way off from the LED so what use the second LED is escapes me.The unit runs very hot, Crystal Disk Info show that the system SSD when playing a video or doing a large download has reached 70 degrees C. Not having had a fanless PC before, I have no idea if this is normal, but it is 40 degrees above that of my desktop, so I have it running with the base plate removed and that has reduced the temperature down by about 30 degrees, which should increase it's life.Another con is the almost complete absence of detailed paperwork which I suppose is not an overwhelming thing but I do like to know what is what when I buy a piece of kit, eg there is a red LED in the middle of the board, what is that supposed to indicate, bearing in mind that with the base plate on, I probably wouldn't have even seen it.I upgraded the M.2 drive with a PCIe drive and added another 500Gb 2.5in SSD, this is used in a small music studio and works well.On the whole I am pleased with my purchase, just wish a little more care was taken in it's design and more information given about it's operation.A word about the company KIngdel, very very swift replies to queries, allowing for time differences have received replies to queries the same day. My PC was advertised as having an i7 8550 chip but this had been upgraded to the 8650 which runs a bit faster, so very pleased with that. All in all this is a good company to do business and I have no hesitation in recommending it.
K**N
Unusable and dangerously hot
PC was dangerously hot and kept crashing with constant reboots. Clearly had never been tested as it crashed as soon as I opened up a standard stress test application.The heat alone would have given me concerns.After several days wasting my time trying different things I returned it to Amazon & purchased a mini PC from a trusted UK manufacturer instead which is what I wish I had done originally.Due to the heat issue I would be concerned Amazon are even selling these. My return was handled through an Amazon bot & there was no relevant response after I mentioned this which gave me the impression they have little concern over safety issues.
P**R
Much power in a very small package.
Pro's. Very small (23x18.5x5.5Cm) and excellently finished. Fired up without any problems as soon as switched on. Well packed by Kingdel and Amazon.Con. The 240 to 12 Volt adaptor plug had a 13 amp fuse, the 3 amp now fitted is more than adequate.Now this could have been my fault although I have no idea how. About an hour and a half into installing my programs the PC refused to boot. Looking at the BIOS settings (by dabbing "del) after pressing the start button) I found that the PC was trying to boot from the 1TB HDD! After several minutes looking at the various options under the "Boot" heading I changed the booting option to the 256GB SSD and all was well.. Please do not let this mystery resetting of the BIOS become a habit.Peter W15th August 2020Have found that one of the fascia 2USB sockets is not functioning. Had some weeks earlier fitted a 4TB internal HDD in place of the original 1TB HDD, this was a snug fit. Wondered whether I had nudged an internal USB connector but I had not. So I assume that the 2USB socket failure is "one of those things", definitely not worth the hassle of persuing under guarantee. Watch this space!Peter W
T**Y
What a fantastic box of tricks
This is an amazing bit of kit, an i7 Quad core, with 16Mb of Ram, 128Gb of SSD and no fan it makes the perfect multi media server. I have added another 12TB of raid storage via the USB3 port and it works like a dream. I can stream 4K to any device on my network with no lagging or lip sync issues, something I had never manage to achieve to date. Worth every penny for that alone. It is small enough and quiet enough to sit in the TV Cabinet.I received the order within a few days, it was well packed and exactly as described. I really can not fault this PC or the supplier.I can really recommend this product.
A**E
Excellent bit of kit
Runs silent and coolComes with activated Windows 10 Pro which I assume is OEM and tied to the hardware, but that's fine for the price.256GB m.2 Sata card is quite fast and 1TB HHD is as expected.Dual 4k monitor is great with 1 x HDMI and 1 x Display portWatch out as if your are connecting the Display port to a DVI monitor you will need an active cable: Benfei Active DisplayPort to DVI Adapter (https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073PSL21G/ref=cfb_at_prodpg) worked for meVery pleased
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